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Re: Bad MAF Symptoms for 89

From: "Black Bomb" <wassup350(at)hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: Bad MAF Symptoms for 89

Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:20:11 -0400

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Thanks Guys,,,



I`ll replace those parts. Should I disconnect the battery for a few minutes

to delete the codes aswell?



Thanks



Dan



"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> "Black Bomb" <wassup350(at)hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> > Thanks Guys,,

> >

> > I`ll run it until it lets go...

> >

> > Dan

>

> No, don`t do that. When you get an engine light, the car computer

> goes into a default mode, called "limp home mode". It retards the

> timing and does some other things so the car just runs. Your mileage

> and performance will suffer.

>

> As someone mentioned, it`s probably the relays. I seem to have to

> replace mine every other year, so now I buy two of each at a time.

> They`re not that much. You can still buy them at the dealership for

> about $12 and $18 each (can`t remember which one costs what). Take 15

> minutes to replace. Couple bolts hold them on over by the battery.

>

> Note that after you replace the burnoff relay, it might take a couple

> of starts before the code goes away. The burnoff relay clicks on when

> the car is shut OFF. I`ve apparently had enough crud on the MAF wire

> where it took a couple of burnoff cycles to clean it throughly.








From: "JOEVET" <CHOPR147(at)OPTONLINE.NET>

Subject: Re: Bad MAF Symptoms for 89

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:59:50 GMT

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what is the best way to check the codes?







"tater" <tater(at)intheground.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Mike" <mikeellison3|x|(at)|x|yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:sKDBc.3833$DQ4.2787(at)fed1read05...

> > In <cb6ov7$cqn$1(at)dns3.cae.ca>,

> > "Black Bomb" <wassup350(at)hotmail.com> writes:

> >

> > >Hi

> > >

> > >I get code 36, but the car runs absolutely fine. How will I be able to

> guess

> > >when it`s time to replace the MAF sensor?

> > >

> > >Thanks

> > >

> > >Dan

> > >89 Coupe Blk on Blk

> > >

> > >

> >

> > More likely it`s a MAF Burnoff relay. Less likely is a MAF Power

> > relay failure. Dealer replaced mine about 5 years ago with the

> > comment that the originals weren`t reliable. Since the car had

> > less than 50K miles, GM picked up the cost of the relays

> > (emission control related). I paid the $ 50 labor.

> >

> > Last Detail has these for less than Eckler`s.

> >

> > Regards, "Mike"

> > -- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com --

> I had the same thing happen to my 89.

> The person that had it before me tried replacing the mass air unit but the

> check light still was on.

> ( I think this is one reason I got such a good deal on it )

> Then I found out in this group what the problem was.The burn off relay and

> power relay are right behind the battery

> on the firewall.

> Called all the local shops here and nobody even new about them. Finally

> called the local Chevy dealer and after

> explaining to them were the parts were located on the car they now know

what

> the mass air burnoff and power relays

> are!!

> They are less than 15 bucks each at the Chevy dealer so I replaced both

of

> them,and no problems with it so far (3 years).

> Hope this helps.

> Mike

>

>










From: "tater" <tater(at)intheground.com>

Subject: Re: Bad MAF Symptoms for 89

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:42:24 -0400

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The relays have the same part numbers so are the same price.

I unplugged my battery for a few minutes after I replaced them and

everything is fine.

Mike



"Black Bomb" <wassup350(at)hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Thanks Guys,,,

>

> I`ll replace those parts. Should I disconnect the battery for a few

minutes

> to delete the codes aswell?

>

> Thanks

>

> Dan

>

> "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:5db363e0.0406230635.37e843c5(at)posting.google.com...

> > "Black Bomb" <wassup350(at)hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:<cb73lt$4ol$1(at)dns3.cae.ca>...

> > > Thanks Guys,,

> > >

> > > I`ll run it until it lets go...

> > >

> > > Dan

> >

> > No, don`t do that. When you get an engine light, the car computer

> > goes into a default mode, called "limp home mode". It retards the

> > timing and does some other things so the car just runs. Your mileage

> > and performance will suffer.

> >

> > As someone mentioned, it`s probably the relays. I seem to have to

> > replace mine every other year, so now I buy two of each at a time.

> > They`re not that much. You can still buy them at the dealership for

> > about $12 and $18 each (can`t remember which one costs what). Take 15

> > minutes to replace. Couple bolts hold them on over by the battery.

> >

> > Note that after you replace the burnoff relay, it might take a couple

> > of starts before the code goes away. The burnoff relay clicks on when

> > the car is shut OFF. I`ve apparently had enough crud on the MAF wire

> > where it took a couple of burnoff cycles to clean it throughly.

>

>







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