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Re: Bad Harmonic Balancer

From: "sbright" <sbright(at)comcast.net>

Subject: Re: Bad Harmonic Balancer

Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 05:54:40 -0500

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Dad-



I know what you`re saying..but.. I had an annoying squeeky belt on my 2000

C5. Ultimately, it was quited down by replacing the crankshaft pulley.

Hard to believe.. but it was "wobbly". Car had about 50K miles on it at the

time.



Steve- The pulley is reaplaced from the underneath. The steering rack

needs to come out to get at it. Procharger (ATI) has a kit to pin the

pulley to the crank. You basically drill a hole in the pin of the crank

which goes into the pulley and put a pin in it. In addition to being bolted

on with the big bolt which by the way is not supposed to be reused. I`m

telling you this because if you ever decide to supercharge your car(highly

recommended), your mechanic would have to repeat what he is doing here.

Four hours sounds right for the job.



-Stan

`99 Blown C5 Vert

`00 Coupe



"Steve Horrillo" <usenet(at)stephenhorrillo.com> wrote in message

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>

> On 10-Jan-2006, "Dad" <knockers(at)fisher.net> wrote:

>

>> > Steve:

>> >> I reported in earlier posts that my belts on my `98 C5 were

>> >> squeaking. I

>> >> took it to a friend`s shop and he found that the rubber in the

>> >> harmonic

>> >> balancer is all worn and wobbling.

>>

>> I doubt this is the case, it may be loose but no way the rubber is

>> worn in the balancer. Just to let you know the LS1 has an oil filled

>> crankshaft and if the bolt comes loose it will allow a black residue

>> to form. Would have said something earlier but I block spamm.

>

> I posted a up couple of close up pictures at

> http://stephenhorrillo.com/C5_harmonic_balancer.htm. Let me know what you

> think. Notice the gap, the cracking rubber and the way it`s pushed in on

> one

> side and hanging out on the other. If you need pictures with a higher

> resolution or a movie of it spinning let me know.

>

> Should I replace it? If I just replace the belts should the squeaking

> stop?

> When I spray belt dressing on the main belt the sqeaking stops for a

> little

> while but there`s still a sort of rattleling sound.

>

> --

> Many thanks Dad and everyone,

>

> Steve








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Subject: Re: Bad Harmonic Balancer

From: "Steve Horrillo" <usenet(at)stephenhorrillo.com>

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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:22:21 GMT

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On 14-Jan-2006, "sbright" <sbright(at)comcast.net> wrote:



> I know what you`re saying..but.. I had an annoying squeeky belt on my

> 2000

> C5. Ultimately, it was quited down by replacing the crankshaft pulley.

> Hard to believe.. but it was "wobbly". Car had about 50K miles on it at

> the

> time.



So is the harmonic balancer the same as the crankshaft pulley? I have a

photo of what they told me was the harmonic balancer at

http://stephenhorrillo.com/C5_harmonic_balancer.htm



>

> Steve- The pulley is reaplaced from the underneath. The steering rack

> needs to come out to get at it. Procharger (ATI) has a kit to pin the

> pulley to the crank. You basically drill a hole in the pin of the crank

> which goes into the pulley and put a pin in it.

> In addition to being

> bolted

> on with the big bolt which by the way is not supposed to be reused. I`m

> telling you this because if you ever decide to supercharge your car(highly

>

> recommended), your mechanic would have to repeat what he is doing here.

> Four hours sounds right for the job.



I mentioned replacing the bolt to the Chevy dealer and he said they never

replace the bolt. He said it`s a huge bolt and is very strong. It seems no

one I take it to knows what they`re doing. Not even the dealer.



The mechanic at my friend`s shop (Midas Muffler) said it is wobbling, but I

can`t see or feel any vibration or wobbling. I only hear a squeaking and can

see that the serpentine belt is chipped on the inside ridges. The Midas

mechanic showed me the cracking rubber on the harmonic balancer as proof it

was bad. The Chevy dealer said that the rubber gets little cracks in it and

dries out within a year and is not symptomatic of a problem. It`s the

wobbling that is what I should be looking for. I have closeup pictures at

http://stephenhorrillo.com/C5_harmonic_balancer.htm if looking at a still

picture tells you anything.





--

Many thanks,



Steve






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From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fisher.net>

Subject: Re: Bad Harmonic Balancer

Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:15:30 -0500

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Did you just tighten the bolt to see if it had allowed it to "wobble"?

If you note his pictures the bolt head is off center, my guess is that

it`s loose, not discentagrating. I`m sure replacing a good balancer

and tighten the bolt will also correct the problem, but costs more

than to tighten the bolt on the old one. Of course I`m still guessing

but if I had gone to the trouble of taking the pictures I might have

tried to tighten the bolt also. The rubber looked OK, although it did

have a bigger than normal gap.



--

Dad

05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51

72 Shark Black/Black/4spd



"sbright" <sbright(at)comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Dad-

>

> I know what you`re saying..but.. I had an annoying squeeky belt on

> my 2000 C5. Ultimately, it was quited down by replacing the

> crankshaft pulley. Hard to believe.. but it was "wobbly". Car had

> about 50K miles on it at the > time.

>

> Steve- The pulley is reaplaced from the underneath. The steering

> rack needs to come out to get at it. Procharger (ATI) has a kit to

> pin the pulley to the crank. You basically drill a hole in the pin

> of the crank which goes into the pulley and put a pin in it. In

> addition to being bolted on with the big bolt which by the way is

> not supposed to be reused. I`m telling you this because if you

> ever decide to supercharge your car(highly recommended), your

> mechanic would have to repeat what he is doing here. Four hours

> sounds right for the job.

>

> -Stan

> `99 Blown C5 Vert

> `00 Coupe

>

> "Steve Horrillo" <usenet(at)stephenhorrillo.com> wrote in message

> news:l2Ywf.160166$aS5.128798(at)bignews4.bellsouth.net...

>>

>> On 10-Jan-2006, "Dad" <knockers(at)fisher.net> wrote:

>>

>>> > Steve:

>>> >> I reported in earlier posts that my belts on my `98 C5 were

>>> >> squeaking. I

>>> >> took it to a friend`s shop and he found that the rubber in the

>>> >> harmonic

>>> >> balancer is all worn and wobbling.

>>>

>>> I doubt this is the case, it may be loose but no way the rubber is

>>> worn in the balancer. Just to let you know the LS1 has an oil

>>> filled

>>> crankshaft and if the bolt comes loose it will allow a black

>>> residue

>>> to form. Would have said something earlier but I block spamm.

>>

>> I posted a up couple of close up pictures at

>> http://stephenhorrillo.com/C5_harmonic_balancer.htm. Let me know

>> what you

>> think. Notice the gap, the cracking rubber and the way it`s pushed

>> in on one

>> side and hanging out on the other. If you need pictures with a

>> higher

>> resolution or a movie of it spinning let me know.

>>

>> Should I replace it? If I just replace the belts should the

>> squeaking stop?

>> When I spray belt dressing on the main belt the sqeaking stops for

>> a little

>> while but there`s still a sort of rattleling sound.

>>

>> --

>> Many thanks Dad and everyone,

>>

>> Steve

>

>












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Title: Skateboarders are Buttheads
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:30:01 +0000
Author: colleenanderson

This should get me a bit of hate mail but it’s true. Okay, not ALL skateboarders are buttheads but the vast majority that I run into on the streets are. The ones that go to the skateboard parks and other safe areas to do their acrobatic feats of derring-do are no problem at all.

The ones that careen through traffic trying to race Death out of Darwin’s gene pool: now those are the giant buttheads. They care for little, not themselves, nor anyone else and have the arrogance that equates to a short life.

We have many forms of locomotion; cars, buses, bicycles, feet, motorcycles, roller blades and skateboards. Skateboards are the least suited to sidewalk and road. Bicyclists and motorcyclists ride small wheeled vehicles with their flesh exposed to the elements and the hard metal of other machines. They wear reflective and protective clothing, and helmets. Of course there would probably be a few death-wish hopefuls who would try to ride without helmets if it weren’t law, like it’s cool to have your brains splat on pavement or something. Cool to be stupid: that’s attractive.

Bicyclists, if they want to remain alive, pedal along beside cars as they can’t go as fast. Drivers and bicyclists should always respect each other’s space and cut out any ego issues. Unfortunately there are attitudes on both sides, but we can always dream of better tolerance. But back to skateboarders; they don’t wear protective or reflective clothing, they don’t wear helmets. Two fails right there.

Pedestrians have the right of way of sidewalks. They walk on them, not on the road where they would soon be road pizza. Of course there are butthead pedestrians who jaywalk in front of cars as if they own the road. But most stick to the sidewalks where they belong. Skateboarders get another fail for having a wheeled object on the sidewalk. Bikes aren’t allowed there; neither are skateboards.

Skateboarders don’t fit the rules of the road because they can’t go fast enough, not even as fast as a bike unless it’s downhill. They don’t wear the proper gear and on top of that they’re kicking a leg out and veering, long undulations in and out of traffic. Skateboarders don’t fit the rules of the sidewalk, because they’re on wheels. They’re hazardous to the pedestrians and often swerve all over the place.

On top of all this, they, who are least protected on the road, take the biggest risks, rolling down the middle of the street, nonchalantly getting out of the way–eventually, when a driver has had to break or slow down for them. It always amazes me that the less protection a person has from vehicles, it’s almost as if the arrogance goes up exponentially.


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